My brother forwarded this to me:
From the Sports Guy (Page 2 ESPN)Q: What do you think is THE defining song of the 80's? Not the most
popular, but the song that if you were putting a disc of one song in a
time capsule for 100 years and they were to open it, what song would
scream "This is why the 80s rules." I say it's Blue Monday by New
Order,
but I'm open to suggestions
--Lance Hughes, Lubbock, TX
SG: That's a great "Driving on a road trip and needing something to
argue about for 50 miles" question. In my opinion, a quintessential
80's
song should accomplish five things:
A. It should make you think that, except for the rare exceptions --
like
the Killers or Franz Ferdinand -- they don't make music like this
anymore.
B. It should be happy and moody at the same time, the last song you
would ever hear before driving your car off a bridge.
C. It should have a definite beat -- you could dance to it, clean your
car to it, drive 110 MPH to it, etc -- and it should definitely sound
like something that could have been used in Miami Vice (in an opening
montage or a "driving around Miami and checking out hot chicks" scene,
not a car chase or a "Tubbs hangs out in a strip joint and pretends
he's
Jamaican" scene).
D. It should make you question your own sexuality for about 0.87
seconds
before you say, "Ah, screw it, it's a good song."
E. It should be dated, cheesy and a little overdramatic ... but not so
much that the song isn't still enjoyable even now.
Anyway, these would be my six choices (with apologies to "Relax" by
Frankie Goes to Hollywood, which wasn't quite morose enough since it
was
about an orgasm):
1. "The Promise," by When In Rome
2. "Suedehead," by Morrissey
3. "Uncertain Smile" by The The
4. "A Forest" by The Cure
5. "The Killing Moon," by Echo and the Bunnymen
6. "Age of Consent," by New Order
So there you go. And yes, I spent about 90 minutes coming up with that
list. And you wonder what I do all day.
So this is my list in no particualr order (it's too hard to choose just one):
1. I agree that New Order definitely belongs in this list, "Blue Monday" is too obvious and over-rated in my opinion. My sentimental choice would be "Bizarre Love Triangle", but "Ceremony" still sounds fresh to me.
2. "The Killing Moon" by Echo and the Bunnyman-I have to agree with the Sports guy here, I rediscovered this while watching Donnie Darko-killer tune.
3."How Soon Is Now" by The Smiths-my favorite all-time Smiths song. I really think that The Smiths have stood the test of time, in that they don't sound dated to me.
4. It seems like there should be a Cure song, but which one? "Pictures of You"(1989) has found it's way back to my heart through the HP commercial. But I think "Inbetween Days" is more fitting.
5. Duran Duran was sort of my sequeway into punk/post punk/new wave music, however I would choose another late 80s tune taht was featured in Donnie Darko,"Notorious." Although, I'm tempted to suggest their cover of Cockney Rebel's "Come Up And See Me (Make Me Smile)" from a bootleg recordign that I chreished inthe mid 80s.
Honorable Mention: "Forever Young" by Alphaville, "Tainted Love" Soft Cell, "I'll Melt With You" by Modern English, "Bad" by U2-all mixer calssics.
What do you think?
Pat,I am glad you posted this. I wanted to see what some of your friends answers would be. Since I was so influenced by your music (and could not afford any of my own) - my thoughts echo yours. I will keep thinking but Duran Duran was the first band that came to my mind. Eric reads this doesn't he?
Posted by: Kraig | January 29, 2005 at 02:52 AM
Perhaps there will a bigger response after the weekend, and I did send it to Eric but I'm not sure how often he reads thsi site.
Posted by: MC | January 29, 2005 at 11:39 AM
Don't You (Forget About Me)-Simple Minds would be my quick answer. I wasn't much into the "80's music of MTV", more into Butt-Rock and Metal in general (everyone knows this). Great song in a classic movie (The Breackfast Club). It is everything 80's. www.KaosUnlimited.com
Posted by: Don White | January 29, 2005 at 01:21 PM
Something like Vienna by Ultravox, or Gold by Spandau Ballet. Don't know if they meet the criteria listed above, but they just feel like real 80's tracks, and came to mind straight away. They're not too late in the 80s either - the 80s sound I identify with lasted from about 79/80 to 85/86. Then came mainstream rap and techno, plus Stock Aiken and Waterman - at least in the UK and Australia - maybe not in the States or Canada. Are you familiar with Bananarama/Rick Ashley/Mel and Kim (before one of them died of cancer)/early Kylie of course/+ Dead or Alive ... come to think of it their big hit might qualify as a classic eighties song - "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)" from 85 I think. It's not morose at all though, but I can't help but feel a bit down when I see Pete Burns on the tele - a very unusual man.
I was also thinking about the instrumental tune 'Axel F', but although you can't doubt its credentials as a true 80's song, it can't represent the decade enough due to lack of vocals. You need one of those deep and booming male vocalists I think, probably wearing a shiny suit and thin tie.
Posted by: Edward | January 29, 2005 at 02:53 PM
"Don' You Forget About Me" came to me later as a possibility. Edward-Bananrama and Ricke Astley were all over the place (unfortunately in the later case), who the hell are Mel and Kim? That's definatley a UK thing. "You Spin Me Round" was played at every dance I went to in the 80s. Dude, Axel F are you serious? "Vienna" is still a killer song, and I would probaly choose "True" over "Gold" as far as Spandeau Ballet goes.
Posted by: MC | January 30, 2005 at 10:55 AM
You didn't have to really like the song in question right? It just had to define the 80s. I just thought Axel F was a very 80s song is all - you wouldn't hear it nowadays lets face it (except in Korea, where someone has sampled a bit for a dance hit - I think the music scene here is lacking somewhat). I can't deny liking it at the time though. I was only about 10 after all.
Mel and Kim were twins (black girls), and had one big hit with lyrics like '(can't remember the first line)... only please believe us, we aint ever gonna be respectable". Quite catchy - I don't think you'd forget it if you had heard it. One of them was diagnosed with cancer (and died of it) before they had time to have another hit (which they probably would have had).
Re Spandau Ballet - I'm never really sure why True is the favoured song - I always thought Gold was the really inspiring hit. (I'm desperate to sing it at Karaoke one day - I think I could pull it off!). I guess they had a good sound. Tony Hadley had appeared on a reality TV show in the UK when I was there (which I think he won), where singers who used to be famous toured America singing other peoples songs, and the audience had to vote on who they liked. He always had a great voice, and I suspect still has.
Vienna is a great song - they don't write them like that any more :-).
Posted by: Edward | January 31, 2005 at 09:21 AM
RE: "Axel F" See article "E. It should be dated, cheesy and a little overdramatic ... but not so
much that the song isn't still enjoyable even now. "
Posted by: MC | February 01, 2005 at 12:25 AM
Well, I have struggled for days trying to determine the “Defining Eighties Song”. Don pretty much nailed it with Simple Mind’s Don’t You Forget About Me. What better example to represent the age of obsession? In my own search, I wanted to be cool and slick with a taste of cutting edge. So I was thinking of songs such as Bad Brain’s She’s Calling You off their STT release I Against I. I thought of Choose Your Poison by Squirrel Bait. Hell, even the widely popular She Sells Sanctuary by The Cult begged to be a choice. Then I started thinking of my guilty pleasures. George Michael immediately came to mind. Any one of his great ballads would have been a contender. I’m serious! And I don’t need to question my sexuality. Enough said. Leaning towards something a bit more mainstream would surface material by The Boss or Madonna. Just pick up a Rolling Stone from 1985 for evidence. Bridging the gap between Ebony and Ivory would be none other than Michael Jackson. Beat It. Damn, too early (1982). How about something by Van Halen? 1984 had a number of hits, but they where all just too popular. Add to that list David Bowie, ZZ Top, and The Police. Want to talk metal? Don’t get me started. Okay, here is just a teaser… Zebra, Priest, Ratt, Scorps, and G-N-R. All in the Jon Keen collection. Sweeeeet. I’m done rambling now, life is too short to figure out just how I’m going to get back in time and take a drive in that DeLorean. So, may I present to you my final choices?
I Feel For You Chaka Khan (1984)
Say It Isn’t So The Outfield (1985)
Posted by: Jon | February 02, 2005 at 04:17 AM
Yeh okay, but I didn't really subscribe to all of the rules presented in the article - I think the appropriate song just has to have the right sound - to conjure up the right memories perhaps.
Posted by: Edward | February 04, 2005 at 06:52 PM